084: Lovise Gard – How To Sell Albums & Prints To Make A Sustainable Photography Business

December 30, 2022

“Make the offer. Do not decide FOR your clients if they can afford it, let them decide what they want to spend their money on.”

LOVISE GARD

Hey everyone! It’s Sally here, from Studio Ninja. Today’s episode is all about Lovise Gard!

Lovise is a full time wedding photographer and educator based in Norway. After shooting her first wedding in 2017 she realized how much she loved capturing the magic spark between couples and the cherished moments that happen unplanned. And a big part of enjoying those captured feelings and moments is printing them. Lovise sells big albums and prints to all her clients and teach other photographers how to make sales into good customer service.

She has now hired associates in her photography business, Foto Gard, so that she can keep running the educational platform For Fotografer and helping other photographers make their business sustainable.

Check out some of the biggest points from Lovise’s interview below:

  • Lovise’s journey in the Photography Industry
  • How selling to your customers is providing good service
  • Why you should include albums in all of your packages

  • Lovise’s secret to getting up to $2000 album sale out of every client
  • How to use print sales to help create a sustainable business
  • Why it’s important to talk about prices

  • What she would do differently if she could start her career all over again
  • The importance of putting your prices on your website
  • Why you should make the offer

  • The one thing that made a difference to Lovise’s business!

Why should photographers include albums in their packages moving forward?

Well, there’s two sides of it. For the clients, we’ve already mentioned, I feel like it brings a lot more joy than photos on a hard drive that will just collect dust. Or some of my clients or some people might even have their photos on their phone, but they’re probably going to just end up drowning in 30,000 photos or something. It’s funny, I actually asked my followers on Instagram on this because I felt like that was a photographer thing to have a lot of photos on your phone. So I asked people, I was like, “How many photos do you have on your phone?” And most people actually had way more than me.

So, I feel like just quality photos, quality print will make them smile and remember those moments. And upstairs, in our hallway, we have… Actually, we need to exchange it. We have a family photo that’s now missing a kid, but we have a big family photo in the hallway so that every time we come home after a long day, that’s the first thing we see and that instantly makes our day better. But also it’s really important for us as photographers, it’s a great way to make your business sustainable without having to chase new leads and new clients all the time. I feel like it’s so much easier to sell to the people that already love what you do and they already might even want these things, you didn’t ask them. Maybe they already expect that.

I feel like selling products is a great way to make sure that it’s sustainable and that the photography business works in the long run, and so that people don’t have to, like I said, chase clients all the time. I shoot 10 to 15 weddings a year and that’s plenty for a good salary for me. So I sell products. I sell products actually both after the engagement shoots and after the wedding. So after the engagement shoot, I do these image boxes as well as an album that I’ve redesigned to be kind of a guestbook and an album all in one.

And then after the wedding, they have an album included in the package, just like a standard small one, which they always end up upgrading. And then also, I sell pictures for the wall and image boxes. And in addition to that, I also sell other services. So I sell a sneak peek that they can buy and get… I can’t remember the exact amount of photos actually, but it’s 30 or 40 images that they get instantly within 48 hours so that they have something right after the day to share on social and share with their family and friends and just see. And then also, I sell express delivery, which is I can guarantee getting all the photos to them in two weeks instead of eight. So basically it’s just jumping the line, we’re cutting the line, which if you look to other businesses, that’s a normal thing. You can pay extras to go first in line on the plane or anywhere else. So why not?

If you could start your career all over again, is there anything you’d do differently?

Yes and no. Kind of yes, because I messed up a lot and I made a lot of mistakes, but I also love that I learned so much from the process and I probably wouldn’t have become an educator as early in my career if I hadn’t learned that. But one of the things that I messed up with was, when I first started selling products, the print labs that I started using came to my house and they sent the seller to show me what they have and what they could offer. And he laid out all kinds of beautiful products and photos printed on aluminum, on wooden floor things and matte paper, luster paper, all the things. And I was like, well, people like different things so I should probably get one of each then. And I spent so much money getting everything and I had my first clients come in and they were so overwhelmed. I had 30 spreadsheets on the table with what felt like a million different price lists.

We have this, we have this, we have that. And they were just overwhelmed and ended up just leaving, not buying anything because they didn’t know what to do. And that’s also part of why niching down, I’m sure most people have heard about this lately because it’s been really big. But it’s so important to niche down not only on your style and your services but also on products. My clients don’t need 10 different things for the wall. For me, they can choose if they want a frame or no frame, so much easier. And then I could compliment that with an image box or an album or other things.

And I messed up so much with that client. And it’s really awkward too, because I’m from a small place. I meet them all the time. But like I said, I put all these spreadsheet out on the table because one, it was overwhelming not just for the client but also for me with all these products I couldn’t keep track, and so I couldn’t remember any of these prices. So when he was like, “What are the prices?” I was like, “Here you go, you can look at all these.” And also like we talked about earlier, I projected my budget over on them by… I was scared to say the price out loud because I was like, “That’s a lot of money.” So I was like, “You can just read it for yourself.” And then he ended up asking me, “Can I just take this home and just think about it?” And I was like, “Yeah, sure.” And then after he left I realized that, “Oh, that’s my purchasing price plus all the math with multiplying it with four or five and whatever.” And so he got all the details. So it was super awkward.

If you could add one final piece of advice, something that’s made a difference in your personal life or your business life, what would that piece of advice be?

Make the offer, ask them, not decide for them whether or not they want it.

Thank you!

Thanks again to you all for joining us and a huge thanks to Lovise for joining us on the show!

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That’s it for me this week, I hope you all enjoyed this episode.

See you soon,

Sally

About Lovise Gard

Lovise is a full time wedding photographer and educator based in Norway. A big part of her business and her clients experience is enjoying the captured feelings and moments on print. Lovise therefore sells big albums and prints to all her clients, and teach other photographers how to make sales into good customer service.